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Micro-Trains September releases
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14 years 2 months ago #9607
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Micro-Trains September releases was created by Mr.JA
Here are proto-photos of the Micro-Trains September releases... at least the ones I could find.
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1001605
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=417225
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1594680
If anyone can find prot-photos of the two WESTERN PACIFIC 40' boxcar releases, please post them here.
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1001605
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=417225
rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1594680
If anyone can find prot-photos of the two WESTERN PACIFIC 40' boxcar releases, please post them here.
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14 years 2 months ago #9608
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Hmmmmmm,
MTL must have changed the website within the past hour and half as I checked about 2 hours ago and they still showed August releases.
Cool!!!
I see nothing this month that interests me, but when my wife see's the B&M hoppers, that's all she wrote!!!! I see myself getting several of these for her train!!! She is all Maine Central/Boston & Maine/Bangor & Aroostook.
Hobo Tim
MTL must have changed the website within the past hour and half as I checked about 2 hours ago and they still showed August releases.
Cool!!!
I see nothing this month that interests me, but when my wife see's the B&M hoppers, that's all she wrote!!!! I see myself getting several of these for her train!!! She is all Maine Central/Boston & Maine/Bangor & Aroostook.
Hobo Tim
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14 years 2 months ago #9609
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Hi Alex,
Here's a close match for you. It's a black and white photo, but I think it's what you're looking for:
www.rr-fallenflags.org/wp/wp19534jpa.jpg
I also found a few others, renumbered and in newer paint schemes, but they're close. They were part of the WP order of PS-1 40' box cars WP 20821-21400, built in October 1951.
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41425
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41426
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41427
See ya in CHAT,
Bill
Here's a close match for you. It's a black and white photo, but I think it's what you're looking for:
www.rr-fallenflags.org/wp/wp19534jpa.jpg
I also found a few others, renumbered and in newer paint schemes, but they're close. They were part of the WP order of PS-1 40' box cars WP 20821-21400, built in October 1951.
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41425
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41426
www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=41427
See ya in CHAT,
Bill
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14 years 2 months ago #9610
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Replied by BillMock on topic Re:Micro-Trains September releases
Hi Alex,
Here's some more information that I sucked off another website.
Bill
WP 20801-21400
WP 20801-20820 Compartmentizer loaders (re #'d to WP 19501-19520)
WP 20821-21400 Compartmentizer loaders added (re #'d to WP 19521-19542)
These 40' box cars were built by PS (lot 8027) in 10/1951 as PS-1's. The first group of 20 cars were originally built with PS's Compartmentizer loaders and painted silver with black lettering and a large, orange feather. The remaining cars were painted mineral red with silver lettering, black and silver heralds, and black car cement ends and roof. An additional group of 22 cars were randomly selected to be retrofitted with Compartmentizer loaders and done so by PS (lot 8121.) These cars were renumbered WP 19521-19542. Many thanks to Jim Eager for clearing all of this up for us. See below:
"OK, here's the story as complete as is currently known:
The first 20 cars of the 20801-21400 series were equipped with Pullman's
Compartmentizer loaders and delivered in 11/51 as 20801-20820, painted
all-silver with black lettering and the large orange feather. This is
established by the the noted photo of 20803 in V.3 #14 of the Train Sheet
(also published in the March-April 1984 Prototype Modeler), plus another of
20805 in Issue 17 of The Train Sheet. The trucks may have been silver as
with the Chrysler trucks on 20803, or black as with the conventional ASF
A-3 trucks on 80205, this is still to be established.
The remaining 20821-21400 series were painted mineral red with silver
lettering, black and silver heralds, and black car cement ends and roof.
The black ends and roof are confirmed by Pullman correspondence files and
photos of cars in original paint.
In 1952-53 a second group of 22 cars from the 20821-21400 series was sent
back to Pullman to be fitted with Compartmentizer loaders, P-S lot 8121.
Since the cars were selected at random they were to be renumbered to
19521-19542. (There is a full list of the cars converted and renumbered in
issue 17 of the Train Sheet.) To keep the Compartmentizer cars together the
20801-20820 cars were renumbered to 19501-19520 (but no photos yet).
Pullman correspondance shows that the second group of cars were NOT
repainted all-silver by Pullman due to the black car cement on the ends and
roof, but an unpublished 1954 slide of 19527 (SAC 2-53) shows that the cars
were indeed repainted silver with the orange feather by WP, but kept their
original black ends and roof.
All of the Compartmentizer cars were repainted mineral red with yellow
lettering, orange WESTERN PACIFIC and small feather in the mid-later 1950s,
as shown in a photo of 19540 (SAC 8-59) in issue 17 of the Train Sheet.
Still later the cars were renumbered back into the 20800s as the
Compartmentizers were removed (slide of 21096).
I hope this helps clear up the confusion about these cars.
Jim Eager"
Here's some more information that I sucked off another website.
Bill
WP 20801-21400
WP 20801-20820 Compartmentizer loaders (re #'d to WP 19501-19520)
WP 20821-21400 Compartmentizer loaders added (re #'d to WP 19521-19542)
These 40' box cars were built by PS (lot 8027) in 10/1951 as PS-1's. The first group of 20 cars were originally built with PS's Compartmentizer loaders and painted silver with black lettering and a large, orange feather. The remaining cars were painted mineral red with silver lettering, black and silver heralds, and black car cement ends and roof. An additional group of 22 cars were randomly selected to be retrofitted with Compartmentizer loaders and done so by PS (lot 8121.) These cars were renumbered WP 19521-19542. Many thanks to Jim Eager for clearing all of this up for us. See below:
"OK, here's the story as complete as is currently known:
The first 20 cars of the 20801-21400 series were equipped with Pullman's
Compartmentizer loaders and delivered in 11/51 as 20801-20820, painted
all-silver with black lettering and the large orange feather. This is
established by the the noted photo of 20803 in V.3 #14 of the Train Sheet
(also published in the March-April 1984 Prototype Modeler), plus another of
20805 in Issue 17 of The Train Sheet. The trucks may have been silver as
with the Chrysler trucks on 20803, or black as with the conventional ASF
A-3 trucks on 80205, this is still to be established.
The remaining 20821-21400 series were painted mineral red with silver
lettering, black and silver heralds, and black car cement ends and roof.
The black ends and roof are confirmed by Pullman correspondence files and
photos of cars in original paint.
In 1952-53 a second group of 22 cars from the 20821-21400 series was sent
back to Pullman to be fitted with Compartmentizer loaders, P-S lot 8121.
Since the cars were selected at random they were to be renumbered to
19521-19542. (There is a full list of the cars converted and renumbered in
issue 17 of the Train Sheet.) To keep the Compartmentizer cars together the
20801-20820 cars were renumbered to 19501-19520 (but no photos yet).
Pullman correspondance shows that the second group of cars were NOT
repainted all-silver by Pullman due to the black car cement on the ends and
roof, but an unpublished 1954 slide of 19527 (SAC 2-53) shows that the cars
were indeed repainted silver with the orange feather by WP, but kept their
original black ends and roof.
All of the Compartmentizer cars were repainted mineral red with yellow
lettering, orange WESTERN PACIFIC and small feather in the mid-later 1950s,
as shown in a photo of 19540 (SAC 8-59) in issue 17 of the Train Sheet.
Still later the cars were renumbered back into the 20800s as the
Compartmentizers were removed (slide of 21096).
I hope this helps clear up the confusion about these cars.
Jim Eager"
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14 years 2 months ago #9611
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Replied by Mr.JA on topic Re:Micro-Trains September releases
Thanks, Uncle Bill! The black and white photo is new to me. All the other photos I've seen in my searching.
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