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3 years 5 months ago #18071 by HoboTim
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Need some contact information! Where was this displayed? Pricing??? Who - What - When - Where?????

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3 years 5 months ago #18072 by CatMan
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That is a lovely bridge! I found a webpage which shows the bridge, but I see no price or availability information. I sent them an e-mail yesterday, but have received no response yet.

www.inari.net.pl/index.php/en/modele/modele-mostow-2/modele-z/item/74-59,0-warszawa-radom-nad-pilica-z
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3 years 5 months ago #18074 by ZRailFan
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I'm a sucker for bridges too (I'm even an old Tau Bate, for which our symbol is a bridge bent). I'd love to know where people get the original plans for these things, as he clearly did in some of his photos. Tremendous work, for sure. His site seems to say "custom built"...

I'd been looking into brass photo etching, just to see how complex it is. I just yesterday received two of the Micron Arts 1083 truss bridges, which I'll kitbash into a single dual-main bridge. I loved the bridges TrainCat produced, but he's clearly out of the market. I even wrote him a letter--no response. I just can't bring myself to buy a plastic bridge. I'd far rather build it, even if a kit.

But Piotr's work is clearly a cut above. Kudos, Piotr! :) Fine craftsmanship.

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3 years 5 months ago #18075 by HoboTim
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www.shop.schlesienmodelle.de/Bauwerke/Neusilber-Bruecken/Metallbruecke-Pilica.html
Good news, I located the website where the bridges are for sale. They take PayPal.
Bad news, the bridges appear assembled and cost 1,043 Euros.
Here is a translation from their website.

By purchasing a INARI Piotr CiechociƄski bridge you opt for the superlatives in bridge for models H0 , TT , N and Z. All bridge models are designed exactly according to the original plans of the models , and agree to the last rivet . The items are etched from 0.3mm and 0.2mm silver and soldered together with the highest craftsmanship . These bridges reflect the highest level of manual soldering technique again .

Since the bridge models are too valuable and delicate for the shipment, we will deliver this only at fairs . You can pick up the bridges at the fairs in Dortmund , Leipzig and Cologne . When you order a bridge model over the Silesia models online store , we will put in touch with you to arrange the remaining flow with you

No shipping, just hand delivery at a train show/fair.

Bummer!!!!
Tim

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3 years 5 months ago #18076 by ZRailFan
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Wow...silver, eh? No wonder the cost, then. I'm not sure I'd have that shipped either.

So these models are essentially expensive coffee table art-deco items? My cat would eat it for lunch. :( I'd far rather brass and cost 100 Euros. Better yet, 40 Euros and I build the kit.

Bummer is right.

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #18077 by HoboTim
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The translator probably didn't know how to translate silver solder from German to English. The bridge is brass etched.

At 1043 Euro's you are paying for precision assembly!

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3 years 5 months ago #18078 by pray59
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Having built bridges myself, I would estimate 8 to 12 hours work to solder up that much bridge. $50 worth of materials maybe. A good 20-40 hours of cad work, and a couple expensive revs ran to get the bugs out of the drawings, and all the parts to fit perfect, and you can see the costs are worth it for a custom hand built bridge.

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #18091 by southernnscale
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I tried this bridge just finished my STL file and checking to see if it will print at shapeways. but I think the support wires may fail in Z scale because of trying to get the details in the bridge support this is what I have. This is just the render!


Made it to long at 219 feet about 12 inches won't print in FUD material

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #18092 by ZRailFan
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Impressive. I have so much to learn about my CAD program. <sigh>

But perhaps can you design components that can be AC'd together? Instead of an entire bridge, just create various spans and girder combinations? We could fill in with brass wire where needed. It would be an amazing bridge, for sure. Perhaps even with a dual main option! :)

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3 years 5 months ago #18095 by southernnscale
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Well I liked this bride so much I got to thinking and thought if I had placed the bridge at and upwards angle it would make it shorter and since it was just a little out of the bounding box it might work! Well! to my surprise it worked! it made the bounding box so I have it being printed now! so we will see what the out come is and if there needs to be any changes. For the price in FUD material of about $57.80 seem to be a good price. I will post again when it arrives and is in one piece.
shpws.me/M9TL

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3 years 5 months ago #18097 by ZRailFan
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I'd definitely buy one. :) Nicely done.

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3 years 5 months ago - 3 years 5 months ago #18100 by southernnscale
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Just got it today it been 3D printed but still need some work since shapeways can't seem to get the packing down right. it was in the bottom with three other models packed on top of it one side facing the top of the box the side support are bent! so I'm back to the drawing board to add size to the side supports. But the over all looks great and appears to be strong it's about 219 ft in Z scale long. The three middle supports where broken at the top.

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3 years 4 months ago #18103 by ZRailFan
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*OF course* it would be packed on the bottom. That's expected (heavy sarcasm). Redesign work out?
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3 years 4 months ago #18116 by southernnscale
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Just received the 3D reprint it was packed by it self and it looks great. only problem is now is it can't take double stack containers will have to redesign for that!

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