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15 years 10 months ago - 15 years 10 months ago #1316 by animek
Laser engraving tips and tricks was created by animek
As discuss earlier with others laser engravers, we found that creating a thread with laser tips and tricks would be a good idea.

So If you have a laser cutter, know someone that has a laser, heard something about new techniques using a laser, and would like to give some input about it, this is the right thread to submit those ideas and info.

That being said, I will start with some latest techniques that I have played with.
And during the coming months I will give whatever update I have discovered.

So I encourage anyone to bring more points to this thread.

Subjects Starting Points


Points 1.
3D objects
To create funnels, I was using paper clips as tubing, but they were a pain to assemble, so I’ve use the 3D technique incorporated in my laser to create 2 parts burn in 3D, then each part could be assemble together to form the funnel.



Point 2.
I may have already discuss about this one, but hey centralizing the info is a good idea (I think!)
My main material for models is called tenderize maple veneer, it is coated with cardboard, but is sold in tubes, so it is very curvy. Thus to facilitate the cutting, I’ve design a small jig that holds everything flat and in places.


Picture of the Jig closed.


Point 3.
To facilitate the windows installation inside my caboose and houses, I use a one frame cell with dots lines for easy plying. Each little holes are to be filled with glue to be used as rivets. The squares in the cell are clearance for the different parts that will be in place inside the caboose or going through the walls.


Ben

My web site: www.animekmodels.com

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15 years 10 months ago #1318 by bambuko
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Hi Ben, very good idea !
thanks for doing it
Chris
ps I have edited picture sizes to make it more convenient :) (hope you don't mind)

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15 years 10 months ago #1445 by Alaska Railroader
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Arg! We lost the rest of the discussion on here by the editing!!!
Anyway Ben, how do you find the 3D commands in CorelDraw? I'd like to experiment but could waste so much time that I may not bother. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Karin

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15 years 10 months ago - 15 years 10 months ago #1446 by animek
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alaska-rr wrote:

Arg! We lost the rest of the discussion on here by the editing!!!
Anyway Ben, how do you find the 3D commands in CorelDraw? I'd like to experiment but could waste so much time that I may not bother. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Karin

No,no the discussion was made on the other forum, " Trainboard " everything is still there.
I just did not recopy everything on here. It will probably make different hints on both forum, but I can't think of something better.

Please find me a link where I can download you're C180 manual, I will show you were to choose the menus, it is not in Corel, because in Corel you only have to put gray shades on specific places on your objects.

Ben

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15 years 10 months ago #1448 by Alaska Railroader
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Yes, you are right. Sometimes it hard to remember where I am in a discussion and on what forum :woohoo:

Don't know the link... yet. But if it is the laser manual then I will take some time and search through it. Drudgery, its more fun drawing than reading...

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15 years 10 months ago - 15 years 10 months ago #1449 by animek
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alaska-rr wrote:

Yes, you are right. Sometimes it hard to remember where I am in a discussion and on what forum :woohoo:

Don't know the link... yet. But if it is the laser manual then I will take some time and search through it. Drudgery, its more fun drawing than reading...



If you're operation menu is the same as the Spirit one, it is only a mater of choosing the 3D option, and then setting up the power and speed

In Corel, start with small things like squares or rectangles bars with a fill of gray shades in them, after you'll have to find the right power setup to obtain the right effect. Do some trials and ask questions is you are still bugging somewhere.

Ben

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15 years 10 months ago #1452 by Alaska Railroader
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WOW, Ben! If only I knew what you were talking about:P Seriously, this looks like a good start and I will begin experimenting ASAP. Loren is gone for the weekend (Sacramento Train Show) and I'm going to spend that time playing on the laser! Besides being Mrs.Loren I'm also Mom to 2 boys still in high school so I didn't get to go. Then, Loren calls me every half hour to tell me how beautiful the weather is and all the cool things he sees while driving that "we" could do in Z. Oh well, I'm glad when I do get to go to shows, just not ale to during the school year :(

Karin

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15 years 10 months ago - 15 years 10 months ago #1453 by animek
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alaska-rr wrote:

WOW, Ben! If only I knew what you were talking about:P
Karin


Like I said, this is hard to show, when you are not beside, (but I do not mean myself here) because for the next coming months, Vermont is as far as I have time to go!:lol:

Ben

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15 years 10 months ago #1477 by lokie62
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This looks like something that I could get into and have fun with.
Can you recommend a Laser Mfg. and maybe their web site
Thank you.
Bob

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15 years 10 months ago - 15 years 10 months ago #1479 by animek
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lokie62 wrote:

This looks like something that I could get into and have fun with.
Can you recommend a Laser Mfg. and maybe their web site
Thank you.
Bob


Yes of course, I recommend either an Epilog or a Laser-Pro

Epilog mini model site. I wrote an article for Epilog earlier this year. Article

Laser-Pro.
Robert Ray recommend the C180 , I've work only on the Spirit GE model. which is pretty much the same as the Epilog model. For the C180 you'll need more info coming from other users.

Why do I recommend those 2 and not any others? Simple answer! Support.. very important, because those 2 models, mine and the one I had given course on, were both defective upon their arrival. It seems to be the standard in the industry, so you can only imagine other brand name with no support at all.

Mine had those parts being change, motherboard, front panel circuit, power supply, and a lot of testings and calls and emails with Epilog.

The laser-Pro had the x-motor circuit, the motor, the main motherboard to be changed, all because a ribbon wire was pinch during assembly, creating a short circuit on some electronics.

So look for a local dealer, and stay away from the Chinese ones, in case pricing becomes an issue.

Those machines are in the range of $12k to $16k.
The Zing's from Epilog is quite cheaper, but I have no experience or more info on it.

Ben

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15 years 10 months ago #1488 by Alaska Railroader
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We have the Laser Pro C180 and it came to us without defect (whew!) but have never used any laser but this. We put a smaller lens on it to help get a finer cutting line. Our sales rep came to the house to give us a basic one day lesson, a real perk! But that was only because he lived not terribly far away. Normally this service only comes with Laser Pro's larger models. If you want his contact info we can give it to you. Be ready for sticker shock though! :woohoo:

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15 years 10 months ago #1503 by lokie62
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Thank you guys for your info on the Laser Pro units. I did get a chance to check out their Web Site. They are very cool units!!
If I was about 35 years younger I'd go for it. At 65, the sticker shock would probably kill me off for sure. I'd have to guess they run around $10K plus, :0( so I will just have to be content to build your neat kits or scratch build. Please keep up this thread. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years I'll change my mind!!
Bob

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15 years 10 months ago #1529 by RRAY
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I have Laserpro too, and love it! There are a couple things I would have changed on the C180, a larger internal exhaust and a built in network port. Other than that, I am very happy. I solved the network problem by getting a $50 LPT Printserver, and for the exhaust I am thinking on adding another 2" connection to the box.

I have not had a chance to play with the 3d mode yet, but I plan on making some of those Canadian style caboose stacks too!:lol:

-Robert

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