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10 years 6 months ago #16264
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the you tube video shows the newest innovation from Rokuhan super elevated curved track to be released in Japan in December 2013
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the you tube video shows the newest innovation from Rokuhan super elevated curved track to be released in Japan in December 2013
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10 years 6 months ago #16266
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Garth- this would be good for inner city subways and elevated systems as well. It must gain it's maximum angle in a series of graduated tracks. How many to a full half circle--or up and down--
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10 years 6 months ago #16268
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Fred I do not see a graduated entrance to the 5.5 degree super elevation. the track come in packs of 6 and 30 degree arc, so 6 Pieces is 180 degrees, so 12 for a full circle. the only thing I can say is the track is flexible enough for it to be pinned down so if you don't pin down the end of the junction end of the regular flat piece of track leading into the super elevation that would be the length of your transition piece. so a 30 degree arc or a 45 degree arc if curved and 55, 110, or 220 mm if straight.
In N scale Tomix and Kato provide a transition piece which is a 30 degree arc of curved track going from flat to enter into super elevation. I do not see any mention of this in the Rokuhan video.
In N scale Tomix and Kato provide a transition piece which is a 30 degree arc of curved track going from flat to enter into super elevation. I do not see any mention of this in the Rokuhan video.
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10 years 6 months ago #16269
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Neat product. I'm anxious to see it in a larger radius track. Looking at the product, it appears that the superelevation is only about 30 mils. I would think that that one could use a standard track for lead-in of some minimum length.
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10 years 6 months ago #16325
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This is great news for those "high speed train" runners. I worked on the Bay Area BART system back in the 70s and "super-elevation" is used everywhere, especially for high speed trains.
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10 years 6 months ago #16326
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Reynard,
Not just "high speed", many of the "classic" routes just look wrong without superelevation. I suspect you know this example: the curve leading into the WP Greenville bridge. Looks totally wrong without the engine leaning into the bridge. Of course that's broad curve hence my interest in superelevation on larger radii.
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Not just "high speed", many of the "classic" routes just look wrong without superelevation. I suspect you know this example: the curve leading into the WP Greenville bridge. Looks totally wrong without the engine leaning into the bridge. Of course that's broad curve hence my interest in superelevation on larger radii.
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10 years 6 months ago #16327
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Yes, many of the O scale and HO scale model railroaders going all the back to 1940s discussed "super-elevation" for their layouts. Back then these guys even built a lot of their own track & ties. But needing "super-e" also depends on the uses planned along the track for different types of railways. Definitely most passenger and commuter trains must have this feature. Look what happened in Spain this last Summer when an engineer outran or ignored the signal warnings for a slower speed around a sharp curve. Many died, he survived. I think he's in jail now...
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10 years 3 months ago #16638
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Will wood ties be available too? A transition track would be good too.
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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #16641
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Seems very inovative. I'm really looking forward to change my tracks to Rokuhan
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10 years 3 months ago #16642
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We a shipment of the super elevated track coming in to us in the next week or two. I can't wait to see it! I am curious about the transition and how that works.
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10 years 3 months ago #16741
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There will be no transition track. According to Rokuhan, it is not needed. You can shim the flat track if desired. Wood ties are available as well as Concrete in both 195 and 220 Radius. These will be released on the 18th of this month in Japan with the rest of the world to follow soon.
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10 years 3 months ago #16742
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Correct there is no transition track. I want to test it to see how well it works without a transition piece. A little shimming may be necessary.
We actually have the track now in stock. We are just waiting on pricing from Rokuhan. Once we have it, we will put it up for sale on our track store. Looking a the track, it is pretty neat. I can't wait to try it out.
We also received the EF66s. They look nice! Again, we are just waiting on pricing...
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We actually have the track now in stock. We are just waiting on pricing from Rokuhan. Once we have it, we will put it up for sale on our track store. Looking a the track, it is pretty neat. I can't wait to try it out.
We also received the EF66s. They look nice! Again, we are just waiting on pricing...
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10 years 3 months ago #16744
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If you use a kork bed for the track it is easy to get transition track easy. Just place a little rubber band on the needed side and you will get good results. galerie.tt-pics.de/data/media/242/KURVEN1.jpg
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10 years 3 months ago #16745
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Pete,
That looks pretty cool for even doing track you have down all ready. cool Ideal. Nice link !you just have to make sure not to elevate it too high!
That looks pretty cool for even doing track you have down all ready. cool Ideal. Nice link !you just have to make sure not to elevate it too high!
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10 years 3 months ago #16751
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Hi Walt your right. But it is easy to test this out, I expect taht 1mm thick rubber band will be good enought. 
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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #16780
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Ztrack's Track Store now has in stock Rokuhan's all new super-elevated curved track! This is the first super-elevated curved track released in Z scale! It comes in packages of 6 pieces. A 195mm and 220mm curve track radius are available. It is also available in wood ties or concrete ties.
We also now have in stock Rokuhan's JR class EF66 electric locomotives. These are sharp looking locomotives!
See these and all available Rokuhan products at:
www.zscaletrack.com
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We also now have in stock Rokuhan's JR class EF66 electric locomotives. These are sharp looking locomotives!
See these and all available Rokuhan products at:
www.zscaletrack.com
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10 years 3 months ago #16781
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Yes super elevation will be available in both tie types wooden and precast concrete.
super elevation on cape gauge track (42 inch or 3 ft 6 in) is what allowed New Zealand, South Africa, and Japan to move into 110 kph or 70 mph speed passenger trains on cape gauge track, or narrow gauge track. I love watching video of the super Hitachi rolling into the curves in Japan.
super elevation on cape gauge track (42 inch or 3 ft 6 in) is what allowed New Zealand, South Africa, and Japan to move into 110 kph or 70 mph speed passenger trains on cape gauge track, or narrow gauge track. I love watching video of the super Hitachi rolling into the curves in Japan.
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10 years 3 months ago #16787
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Wow pricy! That rubber band idea is starting to look good.
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10 years 2 months ago #16791
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"Pricy"? Really? It is the only Z-scale super elevated track on the market.
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10 years 2 months ago #16793
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Yeah, an extra $5.40 per six pack is pricey no matter how many companies are making it.
Guess I will be scaling back my track replacement plans.
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Mr.JA wrote: "Pricy"? Really? It is the only Z-scale super elevated track on the market.
Yeah, an extra $5.40 per six pack is pricey no matter how many companies are making it.
Guess I will be scaling back my track replacement plans.
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