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connecting turnout controls to controllers

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10 years 3 months ago #17411 by zscaleal
I watched the video showing connecting the ROK-C002 Turnout Control to a marklin power pack.. Some questions:

1) It shows a wire going from the Marklin to the C002. Where does the wire come from, is it included?
2) How many C002 switches can you attach to one Marklin power pack#67271)

On another subject, can you use Marklin locos with Rokuhan controllers?

thanks

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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #17412 by garthah
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www.rokuhan.com/english/products/accessories/


The accessory cable is A010 it is two wires has the correct plug on the end to connect with turnout control, and two bare ends that you connect to AC accessory terminals on the Marklin controller. This cable is not included with the C002 There is circuitry inside the Rokuhan turnout controller to convert ac voltage from Marklin controller/throttle to dc to control the points.

You could also use the wall transformer from Rokuhan A011U (North America)

Rokuhan controller/throttles are designed to be used with any Z scale engine no matter the maker/brand.
In the videos introducing their controller/throttles they show them being used with Marklin/ Tenshodo/ Micro Trains Rokuhan and Crown.

cheerz Garth

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10 years 3 months ago #17413 by zscaleal
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How many can you physically attach to one Marklin power pack?

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10 years 3 months ago #17415 by garthah
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The C002 controller are designed to connect to each other, or to a Rokuhan Controller. I do not know the current limitation of the AC terminals on your Marklin controller, and I do not know what other items you have connected to these terminals, so I can not say how many could be connected there. But if you use the wall transformer power supply A011U and snap the other C002 together as designed, on my layout. I have only 12 levers and use the"Y" A005 connector to connect the turnouts at both ends of my 6 yard tracks to one lever. I do the same thing with my 2 passing sidings. The other levers control my double slips turnouts in my approach to and exit from the yard.

cheerz Garth

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10 years 3 months ago #17419 by Pig Gap
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Unless you are planning on throwing a extremely large number of switches all at once, there should be no limit to the number of controllers you can connect. The switches operate from momentary switch which send a very short "burst" of electricity to make to solenoids (or something close to a solenoid) move the track.

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10 years 3 months ago #17421 by markm
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Pig Gap wrote: Unless you are planning on throwing a extremely large number of switches all at once, there should be no limit to the number of controllers you can connect. The switches operate from momentary switch which send a very short "burst" of electricity to make to solenoids (or something close to a solenoid) move the track.


I don't think this is quite right. The C002 I have uses a double throw switch. So there should be a resistive current flow after the solenoid does it's thing. I'm guessing the current would be <1mA per turnout.

Mark

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10 years 3 months ago - 10 years 3 months ago #17422 by garthah
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the switches used for the Rokuhan turnout control are essentially a spring return to center off two pole double throw type, what you do not see internally is the return to center off, after you have thrown the switch lever, The controller emits a 10 vdc pulse for a few milli-seconds and then the output is turned off. There is no solenoid involved, so no twin coil, just a single small coil, made from very fine magnet wire and when energized it attracts or repels the rare earth magnet on the throw bar for the points, moving them to a position opposite where they were when the switch was activated. the output voltage polarity is reversed so with the switch lever in one position,the magnet is attracted to the coil and when reversed it s repelled from the coil. Rokuhan say that the voltage must be at least 10vdc as the coil does not move the magnet dependably at anything less than 10 vdc. The current involved is milliamps. Rokuhan provides a "Y" cable for turnout control so a maximum of two coils can be active at one time so we are still talking milliamps.

cheerz Garth
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