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10 years 10 months ago #16652 by mhommer
How best to keep rails clean. was created by mhommer
After a few years of being busy with other things I am finally getting back to my layout. As part of my Christmas list I had asked for a 'Bright Boy' to get the rails back into shape as that was always what my father reached for but I began to wonder if there was a better way to polish rails. I had read on another form the use of metal polish such as MAAS. Just wonder what everyone else does to keep rails in their best shape.

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10 years 10 months ago #16653 by Mr.JA
Replied by Mr.JA on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
From my experience and what I have read from others... it's best not to use abrasives on Z-scale rail. A "Bright Boy" or similar type item can leave scratches in your rails... which only help to attract and keep dirty.

I use wood popsicle sticks (that are wide enough for Z-scale track) and alcohol or track cleaning fluid. I cut one end of the popsicle stick flat, add enough drops of fluid to make the wood wet... then, run it around the track with slight to moderate pressure. When the end of the stick becomes dirty... I cut the stick flat again.

This works for me on the Rokuhan track I am using.
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10 years 10 months ago #16658 by mhommer
Replied by mhommer on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
What is your track cleaner of choice?

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10 years 10 months ago #16659 by JamesTraction
Replied by JamesTraction on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
I learned from a group I was with to use Denatured Alcohol with a soft fine-weaved cloth - mine is from a good pair of sunglasses (it's protective bag). And using your finger to clean the rail, you can also feel where you have mis aligned track.
JamesTraction

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10 years 10 months ago #16660 by ztrack
Replied by ztrack on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Be careful using denatured alcohol. This is the same stuff that is in fingernail polish remover and some glues. It will actually melt resins and plastics and can damage to the shells on locomotives and possibly plastic roadbed over time. I recommend using only isopropyl rubbing alcohol and a soft cloth.

Rob

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10 years 10 months ago #16662 by markm
Replied by markm on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Rob,
while I agree with the effects of "alcohol", I have to point out that rubbing alcohol is just denatured alcohol with 10-25% water added. I've found that water content tends to make the rail oxidize faster. To me, the most important thing when using alcohol is to use as little as possible. If you can squeeze any alcohol out of your wipe, you're using too much.

I been using electronics grade wipes and swabs. They're basically lint-free, particle-free materials, dampened with a residue-free solvent, frequently denatured alcohol.

Of late, I've been using an Aztec track cleaning car. 2 or 3 passes over the track does a better job than my hand cleaning.

Mark

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10 years 10 months ago #16664 by tealplanes
Replied by tealplanes on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Ok, Rob, Mark, what do you think of 90% alcohol? Since it would have less water content, would it not stand to reason that there would likely be less chance of oxidation due to the lower H2O content?

I do like the idea of electronic grade wipes and swabs. Can those be found at stores that sell electronics or stereo equipment?

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10 years 10 months ago #16665 by markm
Replied by markm on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Loren,
I think the real issue may be the water. "Water" can have all sorts of minerals and other stuff. If it's diluted with distilled or deionized water, I'd use it.

I get my wipes at Fry's electronics. The nearest store to you is in Wilsonville off I-5.
Radio Shack used to carry them too, but I haven't looked there in a while.

Mark

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10 years 10 months ago #16667 by JamesTraction
Replied by JamesTraction on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Rob,
are you sure you're not thinking of acetone? Yes Isopropyl alcohol can be in fingernail removers, but acetone is the active ingredient [ref: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_polish#Nail_polish_remover] which will damage plastics.

I usually use a couple of drops of DA on the cloth, not wet enough to drip on the ties.
I also don't use rubbing alcohol since it's contains a fair amount of water so you might have to use more to get the same effect of cleaning.

But you have me curious, so I'm going to place some MT flex track ties in DA to see if it melts it. Ill report back what I find.
James

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10 years 10 months ago #16668 by Mr.JA
Replied by Mr.JA on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.

markm wrote: I been using electronics grade wipes and swabs. They're basically lint-free, particle-free materials, dampened with a residue-free solvent, frequently denatured alcohol.


Mark... Do you mind posting a photo of the package? I will try to find something similar during my next trip to Japan. I give up trying to find anything useful here in Sweden. :pinch:

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10 years 10 months ago #16669 by mhommer
Replied by mhommer on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
So a follow up question, how often do you find yourselves having to clean the rails?

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10 years 10 months ago - 10 years 10 months ago #16670 by markm
Replied by markm on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Hommer,
Generally, I'll do a quick clean whenever I start operating. Then I'll clean any rough spots I notice when I run the first loco. I'll also do a through cleaning any time the track sits idle for a month. This may be too much, but I figure every piece of dust I take off the track is one less I'll have to clean out of the loco.

JA,
I'll be going to Fry's this week and I'll post more info.

Mark
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10 years 10 months ago #16671 by tealplanes
Replied by tealplanes on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Mark,

I've been to that particular Fry's in Wilsonville years ago. What a place!
If you can't find it there, it doesn't exist.

I'll also check our local Radio Shack, but in recent years Radio Shack has fallen down a bit I feel in their product availability.

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10 years 10 months ago #16676 by markm
Replied by markm on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Here's an example of what I use. I usually buy the single packaged denatured alcohol towelettes but this is about the best Fry's had.


I should think you could find these things anywhere in the world. They're used by electronics technicians everywhere to clean oils off of PC board connectors in computers, medical equipment and such. The key points are: lint-free, high alcohol content and diluted by de-ionized water.

Mark
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10 years 10 months ago #16677 by ztrack
Replied by ztrack on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
Absolutely denatured alcohol. It is one of my favorite solvents! Since it dissolves acrylics, I use it for weathering on my brass models. I use Floquil oil paints on the brass. I then use artist acrylics thinned with denatured alcohol to do fine washed and blends. Nothing is better! Here is a photo showing some of my results:



But it is harsh stuff... to plastics. :)

Rob

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10 years 10 months ago #16679 by Socalz44
Replied by Socalz44 on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
I use the popsicle method for Z scale as well. Jim
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10 years 10 months ago #16681 by pm-ger
Replied by pm-ger on topic Re: How best to keep rails clean.
I use for long track the Märklin Schienreinigungswagen
or also I have good experiance with alcohol dipped fabric cotton pieces

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