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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #14196 by jedforceone
Rokuhan Bridge was created by jedforceone
www.zcentralstation.com/index.php?view=detail&id=9196&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=178

While I've read all the posts on here for how to build a trus, bridge, etc I think since this is my first dive into Z I would be best off buying something simple and painting it up then trying to scratch build one (I can always remodel later). Ive seen the above bridge on the Rokuhan site and in other pictures, can't seem to find anyone who sells the sections though. Seems like there are some pieces here in retail packaging. Any idea where I might find Rokuhan bridge sections (I really only need one or two to bridge a gap).

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #14198 by garthah
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Intermountain is North American distributor for Rokuhan
www.intermountain-railway.com/distrib/rokuhan/rokuhanz.htm
the above link takes you to the Rokuhan page on the Intermountain web site
www.intermountain-railway.com/index2.html
the above link takes you to their contact information on their web site. I expect the bridge sometime this fall but they could give you a more accurate arrival date. There is a single lane bridge coming also but I think it will be the new year before it appears. Also available in the fall are the viaduct pieces and piers. Bridge and viaduct pieces do not come with tradk on them, but Rokuhan does provide compatible roadbed and tie base only pieces of track to go on their bridges and viaduct pieces plus piers to support same and graduated pier set for creating a ramp using the viaduct pieces. The track is held in place on the bridge an viaduct with small screws. Viaduct pieces can be single or dual track straight and curved varieties.

Anthony at Z Scale Monster is one Rokuhan Dealer that I know and there are several others around, but I am sure if you contact Intermountain they can advise who is closest to you and who is internet and who is brick and mortar.
I set up the display in Grand Rapids NMRA Train Show for Rokuhan in the Intermountain booth so I have some familiarity with the product.

regards Garth

cheerz Garth

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12 years 3 months ago #14200 by jedforceone
Replied by jedforceone on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
Thanks a bunch. Yeah, as much as I hate to do it online seems to be my only option for a lot of things. I have one guy in all of Kansas City that deals Z and he's pretty limited. I can at least go through him for some MT and now AZL but he doesn't touch Rokuhan. The only other places in KC pretty much deal HO and O with some N sprinkled in. The New Year huh... maybe I'll be scratch building after all (apparently my patience is limited to fishing).

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #14202 by Socalz44
Replied by Socalz44 on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
Jed, Stop right there! Here is a photo of a bridge that may interest you. It cost under $5 and all you need is glue and plastic purchased at your local hobby shop. Somewhere on this site are step by step photos and comments on how to build it. Maybe someone can lead you to the archives. Not reason to spend money if you can build this in an hour. Someone here smarter than me should put the steps in the "How To" section maybe. Jim

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12 years 3 months ago #14203 by markm
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It's a great looking bridge and obiviously well constructed. Tell me how much does one need to spend on clamps, clips, jigs and mitre & saw to build this $5 bridge? ;-)

Mark

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12 years 3 months ago #14204 by stonysmith
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Jim, I looked around and couldn't find that tutorial.

So, I went ahead and did my own: shpws.me/ewoE

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12 years 3 months ago #14205 by Kelley
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markm wrote: It's a great looking bridge and obiviously well constructed. Tell me how much does one need to spend on clamps, clips, jigs and mitre & saw to build this $5 bridge? ;-)

Mark

Actually if one wants to be a railroad modeler, they would need to invest in the glue, clamps jigs, and miter saw anyway. That is why a bridge for them is only 5 bucks. These are BASIC tools to have around. :dry:
If one wants to be a model railroader, they could just buy it ready made from someone else, who has the glue, clamps, jigs, saws, and the time and skill to make it for you, but don´t expect to get it for 5 bucks. :unsure:
There is the guys on one side who dig up the ore and cut down the trees to make their own hand cast rail and hand cut ties, and the guys on the other side that buy a complete layout with all the houses and trees and people and grass and stuff, and they hire their own valets to place factory weathered cars on the track and turns the knob.
Me, I try to stay in the middle somewhere. :side:
Stony that is a WONDERFUL model, good for trains or cars. You are the 3rd option, using your Star Trek replicator to make anything you want at a push of a button. Still, a lot of priceless time and skill. :laugh:

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12 years 3 months ago #14207 by Socalz44
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Mark, No tools. I didn't have anymore money then than I do now. On this piece of plastic I notched the bends with an Exacto knife and glued the bends together and just used a couple of pins for 'blocks.' Much can be accomplished in our hobby, in any scale, with a bit of thought and some ingenuity thrown in. Jim

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12 years 3 months ago #14208 by Socalz44
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Stony, Good job on the bridge. Amazing where all this 'modeling' stuff is heading.

Those photos have probably disappeared from here over the years. This was from Jan. 2007. Jim

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12 years 3 months ago #14209 by Socalz44
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Hi Kelley, Trust me. If I had the bucks I would have all the tools. I don't so that is why I have you do stuff for me! Jim

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12 years 3 months ago #14211 by jedforceone
Replied by jedforceone on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
Raided the local hobby shop and picked up most everything I needed to make structures/bridges/etc. The trick is making them look like that... lol

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #14212 by David K. Smith
Replied by David K. Smith on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge

Socalz44 wrote: Jed, Stop right there! Here is a photo of a bridge that may interest you. It cost under $5 and all you need is glue and plastic purchased at your local hobby shop. Somewhere on this site are step by step photos and comments on how to build it. Maybe someone can lead you to the archives. Not reason to spend money if you can build this in an hour. Someone here smarter than me should put the steps in the "How To" section maybe. Jim

Not to be a "party pooper," but that bridge would not be able to hold itself up, let alone a train. And just to be an equal opportunity nitpicker, Stony's RP bridge would suffer the same fate. If you're going to go to the trouble of scratchbuilding a bridge, then why not build a realistic one? In particular, both you and Stony need a bit more meat on them bones to hold up the track. For reference, here is the deck of a real bridge, with the track removed so you can more easily see what you're missing:

www.traincat2.com/images/models/whitford4.jpg

I will now don my flameproof suit, retreat to my bunker, and wait out the firestorm...

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12 years 3 months ago #14213 by Kelley
Replied by Kelley on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
Old school modeler with T-pins! It's crazy amazing good stuff, even if it not beefy enough ;) Those pins are actually something I probably need in my toolbox.

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12 years 3 months ago #14214 by stonysmith
Replied by stonysmith on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
David.. I fully respect the fact that there are bridges with much larger girders on the bottom. But, by the time you feed roadbed track thru Jim's and my bridge, you're going to be pretty close to the bridge in this picture:


I can setup a bridge pretty much anyway that someone would want, as long as nobody starts asking me for the rivet detail....

But, part of my desire here is also to spark imagination.. One of my desires is that a person could "custom tune" a bridge to their own configuration and have the design be auto-generated.. stay tuned.

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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #14215 by ryuen
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jedforceone wrote: Raided the local hobby shop and picked up most everything I needed to make structures/bridges/etc. The trick is making them look like that... lol


Jed, the trick is to take your time and not be afraid to redo a part or try a different approach if the first isn't working out.
Drawing a template first would be a good idea too, it helps with alignment.

While I wouldn't even dare suggest my work is anywhere near Jim's league, I did build my first bridge² a while ago with some styrene, thin foamcore, exacto knife, glue & pushpins³ to keep things in place while drying.

It ended up looking like this:
www.zcentralstation.com/index.php?view=detail&id=7097&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=178

If you can't tell, it was also my first attempt at weathering ;)

Anyway, just wanted another example of a scratchbuilt bridge project that didn't break the bank and was fun to do.


²: a lie actually, the first one was a trestle made out of matchsticks on a bored evening to get a grasp on how to make one, it was bad
³: T-pins were over my budget ;) Nah, just use what's available really :)

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12 years 2 months ago #14220 by Kelley
Replied by Kelley on topic Re: Rokuhan Bridge
Might be a good idea for a new contest. I thought they did a bridge contest once before but since there is a lot of new blood, might be kind of cool to do again. Or would that be a bridge too far?

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