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US Z Lines Europe

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6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #13107 by Mattias
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Hi, some of you have already heard or read about the US Z Lines in Ztrack Magazine. They are based in Germany at Case Hobbies, the so called OWL Division. Other members live across Germany and Austria. The last big event was the US Convention in Germany last October. During my last visit I made a few films, which I´d like to share with you.
The first 2 videos were shot with a lighter cam

Trains meet


Across the layout


Container train


Enjoy!
Mattias
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6 years 7 months ago #13110 by ztrack
ztrack replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Mattias, great videos!!! I really enjoyed the video from the cab view. The shining rails is such a wonderful site. Do you have a photo of your camera car? I would love to see it. I have been wanting one for my layout for sometime.

Rob

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6 years 7 months ago #13113 by Mattias
Mattias replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Hi Rob,
I have taped the camera on a piece of wood which fits in the hole of a MTL Husky. So it gives the feeling of a cab ride.
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Mattias



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6 years 7 months ago #13114 by ztrack
ztrack replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
This is very interesting. What type of camera is it? It appears to be a USB powered camera. Do you have a manufacturer or link? This has some real potential!

Rob

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6 years 7 months ago #13115 by Mattias
Mattias replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationThat´s right, the camera is connected via USB. I bought it at a German electronic Discounter, about 30$. It´s similar to this one, but I guess the quality is better.

Greetings
Mattias

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6 years 7 months ago #13117 by Zcratchman_Joe
Zcratchman_Joe replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Rob, I've got a car specifically designed to hold these cameras in the works. I've been waiting to finish a layout in order to shoot some footage before they go to market, but I've fallen behind with other projects. I've been planning on selling the cars with the cameras included. Looks like I'd better get myself in gear and get some out there for sale.

Joe

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6 years 7 months ago #13118 by ztrack
ztrack replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Joe I think you got a product there! I know quite a few folks would be interested in these cars.

I just ordered 2x to test and sample the video. I am looking forward to testing these cameras.

Rob

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6 years 7 months ago #13134 by Mattias
Mattias replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
There is already a radio equipped camera car in Germany available, but nothing about the price is said:
fbc-maschinen.de/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=18&Itemid=54
Greetings
Mattias

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6 years 6 months ago #13137 by Zcratchman_Joe
Zcratchman_Joe replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Mattias, I’ve checked into this camera you mention and if I remember correctly I was told the price is around US $280.00. I believe this was just the cost of the wireless camera, not the camera inside a car/loco. I did not check into it further because I felt the cost was prohibitive for most people (including myself).

Since then, I’ve ordered an identical camera/receiver elsewhere and I’m hoping it should arrive any day. I will then know more as to what it might fit inside of, or how I wish to develop a product(s) around it.

One thing we need to keep in mind is that the first camera car I mentioned developing stores its video on a micro SD card. Stick the micro card into an adapter and then stick the adapter right into your computers SD slot and you may transfer the video anywhere.

With the wireless camera (or as you put it, a radio equipped camera car), unless ones owns a multimedia computer with video INPUT, all they might be able to do is watch the live video on a monitor or possibly record it on a VCR or similar device.

With that said, I’m also checking into devices to allow one to bring this live video right into their computer to record it there for later viewing on, say, a web site like ZCS.

If things work out, I would then be able to offer two types of camera cars suitable for most computer set ups, or video recording.

Joe

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6 years 6 months ago #13138 by Mattias
Mattias replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
You´re sure right, Joe. This car will have his price, I wouldn´t pay. It´s interesting, if you run it on a layout on conventions where you can attract people with the live picture. I agree, I´m happy with the Micro SD card in my cam. Looking forward to see yours, is it gonna be an American prototype car?
Greetings
Mattias

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6 years 6 months ago #13139 by Zcratchman_Joe
Zcratchman_Joe replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
I'd like it to be a NA car or dummy loco because I run NA, but I think a non-distinct car/loco would really be the way to go. A lot depends on the camera and I don't have one "in hand" yet in order to get a good look at it. Time will tell.

Plus, I still need to figure out a way to power the camera. Normally it takes a 9V battery, but a 9V sure won't fit on a Z car, sooooooo, it's off to the drawing board on that one. I just wish I was better in electronics!

Joe

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6 years 6 months ago #13140 by rvn2001
rvn2001 replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
I use 3 3-volt button batteries to power my wireless video car. I'd like to have a way to power it from the track also as the batteries can get expensive if you can't find a good deal when you need them. I've got a video camera that allows me to record from the wireless camera. I just connect the cables from the receiver to the camera. I can remove the card from the camera and plug it into my computer or I can connect the cable that came with the camera to connect it to the computer or TV. Visitors like to watch themselves on the monitor when I run it at train shows.

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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #13141 by Zcratchman_Joe
Zcratchman_Joe replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Yes, I had thought about the button batteries but you're right, the cost could take some of the fun out of it, however they can be found on eBay for next to nothing.

And yes, as I said a VCR or a similar device (like your video camera). I’m pretty sure I’ve also got a source for inexpensive RCA to USB video capture devices, so going directly into a computer might not be that difficult either.

Still a lot to work out though.

Joe

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6 years 6 months ago #13146 by Kelley
Kelley replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Rail inspection car. Yep Yep

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6 years 6 months ago #13147 by Zcratchman_Joe
Zcratchman_Joe replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe
Kelly... I've got a clear Track Inspection Car ready to go too. Everything is set to go for production however, as usual, I'm waiting on other people before that can happen. I'll make another phone call today and see if I can put a burr under someones saddle.

Joe

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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #13153 by Mr.JA
Mr.JA replied the topic: Re: US Z Lines Europe

Zcratchman_Joe wrote: I've got a clear Track Inspection Car ready to go too. Everything is set to go for production however, as usual, I'm waiting on other people before that can happen. I'll make another phone call today and see if I can put a burr under someones saddle.

Joe


No pictures? :dry: Sounds like vaporware, Joe. :whistle: Are you following in the AZL, IM footsteps? :blink: I know you can do better than them. ;)

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