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Got Snow in the Pass?

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14436 by stonysmith
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At the 2012 NZSC, we visited the Colorado Railroad Museum, and I was able to get a good set of reference photographs for C&S 99201 Rotary Snow Plow.

Now available for purchase: shpws.me/kXDS



The base is a separate peice so that you can add glass to the windows.
I didn't even attempt doing the ladders.. those will have to be added separately.
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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14438 by tealplanes
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Cool Stony. What do you put it on....just a pair of regular trucks? I know several who need to add this to their roster.
Oh, and a PS of sorts. We're working on a show shed that would compliment this plow.

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11 years 6 months ago #14440 by stonysmith
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Yes, just regular (non coupler) trucks.
The proto units were unpowered - had to have a locomotive behind them pushing.

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11 years 6 months ago #14441 by UP Mike
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Wow nice work Stony with AZL coming out with the UP GP38-2 I could use a Flanger :)



And for you Loren can't wait to see what you come UP with will it be Modern?
The JC Shed.........

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11 years 6 months ago #14442 by Socalz44
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A snow blower and a snow shed coming? NICE. Jim

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14445 by tealplanes
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Everyone who wants one, contact me for a special price on non coupler trucks.

And Mike, I was thinking of you when I saw Stony's creation. I knew you would be interested.
On my new end module I have a siding and it will have the shed that we are making, so I guess it will be considered old?
After all, winter is a coming.

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14447 by Alaska Railroader
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A long long time ago in a land far far away.... (Alaska Railroad Plow)

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14467 by stonysmith
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Here's a link to several images in the gallery of this snow plow from the CRRM:
www.zcentralstation.com/index.php?view=detail&id=8230&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=178


Update: I put the elves go back to work.. the blade (should) now turn.

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14470 by Zcratchman_Joe
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As for locomotive power to push one of these. For those that like to model an exactly accurate railroad, one could “assume” any loco in the fleet might have been called upon to be a pusher. However that’s not exactly a very good way to do things. With some railroads, there are locos that might not ever have gotten in to the region, and so they would never get called upon in the first place. It would be nice to know which locos, for specific RRs, took on the job of pushing a rotary snow plow. Does anyone know of any lists of combinations of rotary snow plows/locos? And the list could be quite long as rotaries were in production from 1885 until 1950 and used at least until 1988. (The last "homebuilt" Lesley type was built in 1971.)

Although they don't have pushers listed, I've found two lists of rotaries (and I'll bet there are alot more). I have no idea how complete (or accurate) these are;

membrane.com/~elmer/rail/units/rotaries.html

www.hazegray.org/rail/rotaries.htm

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11 years 6 months ago - 11 years 6 months ago #14471 by UP Mike
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Testing..........





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11 years 6 months ago #14472 by N/A
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Loren,

That photo of you and Karin looks likes one of Fred's trick photos!

John

:ohmy:

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11 years 6 months ago #14473 by shamoo737
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Dashing Dan wrote: Loren,

That photo of you and Karin looks likes one of Fred's trick photos!

John

:ohmy:


I dont think so John. Its Loren with Lucille ball. :laugh:

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11 years 6 months ago #14474 by tealplanes
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Dashing Dan wrote: Loren,

That photo of you and Karin looks likes one of Fred's trick photos!

John

:ohmy:


Try as he might, Fred was not able to make me look any better than what you see.

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #14606 by stonysmith
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To confirm the statement that "Stony Can't Paint".. I offer this evidence of the crime.

First I cleaned the model with Bestine.. leaving this white finish.


Then for the crime:
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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #14607 by tealplanes
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stonysmith wrote: To confirm the statement that "Stony Can't Paint".. I offer this evidence of the crime.


Well forgive me for being blind, near sighted, and cross eyed, but just exactly what is so bad about your paint job? Were you trying to paint it yellow with green spots? If so, then yes, I'd say you screwed it up royally. :sick:

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11 years 5 months ago #14608 by rvn2001
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It doesn't look all that bad to me either. Maybe a better lit photo would reveal the problems.

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #14613 by stonysmith
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Here is a cross-section of the plow. You can see that there is a "nub" that is accessable from inside the body, along with slot that should accomodate a motor shaft of some kind.


The trouble here is finding a motor that is slow enough, along with fashioning a mount for it. For now, any such motor would be 'floating'. I am open to altering the design, but I don't know what to select.
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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #14615 by Socalz44
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Stony, Motor for the blades? Will you have snow as well? I know little about motors and electrics and such, but for videos or the blurred still camera shot could you not use some sort of voltage regulator on something? How about on those few times you may run the propellers maybe a device that would slow the props down. Are toothed gears a possibility? Jim

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11 years 2 months ago - 11 years 2 months ago #15221 by stonysmith
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I can now confirm: the most recent version of this model DOES allow the blade to spin!
Just got my reprint today, and it works fine. I made the "nub" inside quite a bit longer than the picture above so it should be easier to mount a motor to it.

Now, to find a motor.

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11 years 2 months ago #15222 by tealplanes
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If such a motor as needed, using low DC voltage can be found, then couldn't one use a small button battery with a tiny micro switch or reed switch of some sort mounted on the bottom of the frame to power the blades during short running sessions? Some smart electronic type guy could likely design a circuit that would take the voltage down to manageable RPMs.


Somewhere in this big old world there has to be a as yet undiscovered tiny slow rotating motor that would fit the bill.

The effect would be quite captivating, but without snow to blow around it would look a bit out of place. Still, a novel effect.

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